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TGZ - UNIX only?
Even if 0.8.3+ versions have changed to TGZ format (instead of ZIP), this doesn’t make the theme UNIX specific. You can install it the same way under Windows too. The file it is still an archive and you can easily convert it to ZIP, if you feel like it, by using many archive converters (e.g. like the freeware ArcConvert for Windows).
Transparency Issues
On dark backgrounds, you may notice that the smileys are not perfectly transparent. Stop wining about it! First of all, a light background is perfectly fine. The fact that you want a dark background is your issue! If you have the time and knowledge to improve the transparency of the smilies, you’re most welcome to do it on your own and then send me some updates.
Duplicate themes?
If you had the 0.8.2 or lower version, after you performed the “easy installation” of newer versions, you might find yourself with “duplicate” Original Smileys themes.
One is the new version, one is the old version.
That is because previous versions were being installed for all users, while the “easy installation” (drag & drop) performs the installation in the user’s profile.
Read below if you want to perform an installation for all users.
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In order to delete the old version, installed for all users, you must
Installation for All Users?
There is no “easy installation” (drag and drop) for all users, but it’s not that hard either.
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Original Emoticons (Pidgin Smiley Theme) « „Andrie”
April 10th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
[...] Emoticons (Pidgin Smiley Theme) This post is obsolete. This topic has moved to http://andreineculau.com/blog/2008/04/original-smileys/ . Please follow the link to get updates on this topic and to download the newer [...]
AJ
April 12th, 2008 at 1:28 am
Hello, i was wondering if you’re considering adding the new googletalk smileys into the archive. The new smileys can be viewed by setting your locale to en-US in gmail or by using the googletalk gadget (flash) at [http://www.google.com/talk/].
I can offer my time towards this task… if you can share the method used to extract the emotes as animated gifs.
Cheers.
AJ
Andrei Neculau
April 12th, 2008 at 2:35 am
@AJ: Thanks for your comment! I am open to any update/upgrade, but the thing is that with this “choose your smiley theme” option we are getting into a bit of a problem.
I suppose you are talking about the new “face-like” round or squared smileys, which are set as defaults in the desktop Labs Edition of Gtalk.
There are two aspects - on the Gmail Chat, the old smileys are still the default ones. And also.. I personally like the old “classic” smileys, and I think I’m not the only one. But I do admit there are opinions and opinions on this.. the problem is that you won’t be able to choose between the Gtalk smileys in Pidgin.
See my dilema?
Fahimeh
April 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
This package is for linux based OS, isn’t it?
If so, is there any other package that is suitable for Windows? And one more question: I have downloaded Original_Emoticons_0_8_2_by_andreineculau2 package. Is that compatible with the last release of Pidgin?
Andrei Neculau
April 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
@Fahimeh: This package is not OS based. You can have it on Windows, Unix, etc. wherever Pidgin can be installed.
Did you encounter problems upon installing it? If so, please give details.
Indeed version 0.8.3 changed from ZIP format to TGZ (or TAR.GZ). This measure has been taken in order to allow for easy installation (drag and drop) in the Smiley Theme tab, located under Preferences.
Yet, this only adds value. The package is compatible with the current and with many of the previous versions of Pidgin.
Andrei Neculau
April 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
I have updated the post’s content, in order to make it more clear about the archive format and such. Hope that helps, Fahimeh!
Fahimeh
April 13th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Thank you so much for your explanation. I just noticed TGZ format and thought it is compatible for ubuntu only
AJ
April 14th, 2008 at 9:25 am
I’d like to thank you for your current release; it’s great for Pidgin.
I vote a default directory (as you have now) and other directories with the round and square googletalk smiley themes default. That way me and my friends can swap in the round or square themes at will.
So, the way i see it, release the googletalk round and square)smiley content and the users can decide how to use the smileys
Cheers.
Andrei Neculau
April 14th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
@AJ: Let’s recap.
Now there’s a full theme (that switches the smileys when you switch between protocols), and then you have the “as default” themes which makes one protocol icons usable no matter the protocol you use - e.g. you choose Yahoo smileys as default, and even if you are talking to a GTalk friend.. you still see the Yahoo smileys.
With that in mind, I do agree that I can add the the GTalk square and round faces, but only within “as default” themes.
I will not go into making 3 full themes (one for each GTalk smiley version), since that is surreal. Imagine the fact situation where you could have new ICQ smileys.. or even a concrete one: the new Flash Yahoo 9 smileys. There would be so many combinations: GTalk round, Yahoo 8, etc —- then: GTalk round, Yahoo 9, etc —- then: GTalk square, Yahoo 9, etc
Maybe in time Pidgin will allow sub-themes and so you will be able to have them all under the same umbrella.
Or, GTalk will settle down to one theme, time when I will switch to that theme.
I’m sorry, I know it may be unpleasant, but when things get tangled, I’m not willing to do extra work without any real gain.
AJ
April 15th, 2008 at 12:37 am
I’m not suggesting that .theme files need to be created for each of the combinations (Y! 8/9, Gtalk default/round/square). All i’m saying is, capture the round and square gtalk smileys, and post them as an alternative link on your page.
Interested users can simply symlink the round faces or square faces to the default gtalk smiley dir, thus overwriting the default smileys. Windows users could achieve the same by copying over the existing files.
This would be a really low-tech solution, but effective enough.
If this is not possible in your time, perhaps you can share the method of extracting the googletalk smileys. I’ll do the needful to extract the newer faces and post the results back to your blog for a single point of contact for all “original protocol” pidgin smileys.
Cheers.
Andrei Neculau
April 15th, 2008 at 9:18 am
He-he… a geekish solution.
Soon.
Ok, I’ll go with that, AJ
Andrei Neculau
April 15th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
AJ, I’ve sent you an email. Hope you got it. If you didn’t, send me an email.
AJ
April 16th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Thanks for the email. I’ll start exporting those images one by one and post them back to you soon.
Cheers.
greedz
April 20th, 2008 at 2:01 am
Thanks alot, I was really missing the Y! smilies.
busel7
April 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Andrei Neculau
April 22nd, 2008 at 12:21 am
@busel7: English please, or your comment will get deleted!
Suluh Legowo
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 am
busel7 basically said, “Thank you. This’ll make Pidgin rocks more!!!”.
And another thanks from me too. =)
Buddies of mine told me GAIM (Pidgin) sucks because of the (default) smileys and this’d shut them up for quite some times.
Miroslav Abraham
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Hello Andrei. In the first place I would like to thank you for the package as it seems to be very well done. Your package does not contain any for QQ.
I started using QQ recently and have undergone a research on the smilies. Found a list but no shortcuts. Is it on your list of tasks to be bothered by QQ or not even close to it?
Wil
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Thanks for this, but I am having troubling installing into Pidgin, is there another way more manual to install it? Everytime I drag and drop or use the Add button, it freezes my pidgin. Thanks!
Andrei Neculau
April 24th, 2008 at 1:52 am
@Miroslav Abraham: Check version 0.9.1 and tell me how it works
It is still experimental, since I have no QQ friends
@Wil: Send me an email with your specifications (operating system, pidgin version)
Leon
April 27th, 2008 at 12:14 am
They work great. Took a while to figure out the whole archive thing, but after that, they worked perfectly! Thanks a bunch!
Andrei Neculau
April 27th, 2008 at 12:54 am
@Leon: Can you explain what went wrong, or what’s with figuring out the “archive thing”?
cristi
April 28th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Error 404 - Page Not Found when trying to download .. please do something about that
Andrei Neculau
April 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
@cristi: A big thanks for the notice! Fixed now!
anca
April 28th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Great job, Adrian!
Thank you very much!
anca
April 28th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
oups,
I am really, really sorry for that, Andrei (I am a little tired right now and can’t remember people’s name from the top of the page to the bottom comment form…)
great job nevertheless!
Happy coding!
Andrei Neculau
April 29th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Nu-i bai, Anca
Kim
May 5th, 2008 at 2:13 am
Fantastic! I nearly taught myself how to make a smiley archive simply so I could have something like this. Good thing I dug around on Google first.
Thank you! 
occasus
May 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Thanks for the effort. There seems to a bug though. After using some of the smilies, I can’t see the next message I send. It is only displayed after another message is send (the two are displayed together). Try for example :-h (before using any other simlies).
Andrei Neculau
May 12th, 2008 at 2:05 am
@occasus: That bug is something I experimented as well, but I never thought it has something to do with this smiley theme.
Can you tell me if you have found a reproduction scenario?! What protocol, which smiley.. turns this bug alive?
Hugh
May 12th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I found this bug relating to messages not appearing. http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/938 Seams to be something relating to animated smileys.
Andrei Neculau
May 12th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
@Hugh: Thanks, Hugh!.. Indeed.. not smiley theme related.
Hayden
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:43 am
When IM’ing a friend on Trillian, I used (E) and (S) — not intending to do an emoticon — and she saw an envelope and moon. (A) (B) (C) (D) (F) etc. work for different symbols too. I’ve never found a pack that implements this on Pidgin. Anyone know of one?
Andrei Neculau
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 am
@Hayden: Those are all shortcuts for the MSN protocol. If you are talking with your friend while you’re both on MSN, and if you are using my theme.. you will see the same emoticons.
occasus
May 24th, 2008 at 9:31 am
The bug I was referring to occurs when using Yahoo smileys. It seems to (somewhat) consistently happen after some moving smileys. Check for example :-h (the waving hand).
occasus
May 24th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Here are some other examples,
:-ss, :-@
Open a chat window and use them before typing anything else and then type a few lines of message to see the effect. The issue seems to be somehow resolved in the middle of a long chat, after many (non-problematic) smileys have been used.
occasus
May 24th, 2008 at 9:54 am
… and sorry, i didn’t see Hugh’s comment. You’re right seems to be a pidgin’s bug!
Mr Arms
May 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Sounds like someone needs a hug! *Hug*
Hallo
May 31st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Hi! First of all I’d like to say thanks for the good stuff =) I’m using gadu-gadu smilies when speaking with friends from Poland and have a little problem with that. The smilies preview window laggs terribly when been opened, I suggest because of lots of animated smilies. Does somebody else have the same problem? I’m using pidgin on my linux laptop. Is it possible somehow to make smlies preview window unanimated?
Andrei Neculau
May 31st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
@Hallo: Yes indeed! It’s because of the animated smilies. And that is for each and every pack with lots and lots of smilies.
Basically many Pidgin-users are looking for a “preview function”.
For the time being, there’s no solution.
PS: actually there would be - a duplicate smiley theme with no animation would be faster, but I don’t see any volunteers for that. Not to mention Gadu-Gadu is quite “stupid” and unique with so many smileys.
Smiff
June 6th, 2008 at 2:48 am
hi, thanks I see msn-pecan support!
but i’ll need to install for all users in the pidgin program dir, because of the way our network is setup… can you please advise how to do this so that its available to all users with one install per machine?
many thanks if we can!
Andrei Neculau
June 6th, 2008 at 9:51 am
@Smiff: I’ll update the FAQ section quickly.
Andrei Neculau
June 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
@Smiff: Done. Hope it helps! Consider a small donation. Thanks!
Smiff
June 9th, 2008 at 12:43 am
sorry that doesn’t seem to work. i created the dir ‘emotes’ in purple because it wasnt there. the theme is not found. i’m not sure what the dir structure should be. i notice the default smileys are in \pixmaps\pidgin\emotes, so i tried putting the files in there but that wasnt found either, probably because of the theme file?
Smiff
June 9th, 2008 at 12:55 am
ah i figured it out.. the dirs from the archive need to go in \pixmaps\pidgin\emotes (not \purple\)
but there is another problem sorry - the alpha is broken on these icons. the old smileys looked fine with dark themes but these look bad on dark backgrounds - the edges have white dots etc. hope you can take a look, although this could be a lot of work!
Andrei Neculau
June 9th, 2008 at 10:58 am
@Smiff: What you’re saying doesn’t make sense, and I’m not going to look into that.
Smiff
June 9th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
sorry if i wasn’t so clear last night.
please try your icons with a dark style GTK theme (e.g. CleaLooks-DarkOrange http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1065 ) on Pidgin 2.4.2 on Windows. the problem should be obvious - the icons look bad because the edge transparency is missing or not showing correctly. whereas the old icons included in pidgin work fine!. (probably because they are .gifs wheras the old ones are .png?)
When i get time I’ll probably fix up a set for myself using the old icons to work with WLM for now.
Andrei Neculau
June 9th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
@Smiff: Reply
Smiff
June 9th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
i thought I was just politely giving feedback - you don’t have to fix it, and i don’t have to make donation. i do have some experience with open source/free software projects and your attitude is… surprising.
Pidgin IM » Blog Archiv » Original Smileys der Protokolle
June 12th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
[...] lieber die Original-Smileys haben will, der sollte sich mal im Blog von Andrei Neculau diese Seite anschauen. Dort könnt ihr euch eine 1,9 MB große Datei ziehen, installieren und schon habt ihr zu [...]
n/a
June 21st, 2008 at 1:48 am
in pidgin just go into the prefs - smiley themes - add and select the compressed file on ur desktop.
Will
June 24th, 2008 at 5:46 am
I don’t know what smiff’s problem is but everything works fine for me. Thanks for the cool icons.
Andrei Neculau
June 24th, 2008 at 8:23 am
@Will: Thanks, Will
Happy usage!
toplez
June 27th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
thx for smiley
Soroosh
June 28th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Thank you very much
Kim
July 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 am
I’ve been using this smile pak for a while and yes it’s the best one I’ve found, but I have to tell you that it’s missing one of my favorite yahoo smiles! It’s a little dancing guy which you get by typing \:D/ on YIM. Any chance it could get added with the next version?
Andrei Neculau
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:50 am
@Kim: There was no capital version, just \:d/ Should work ok in the new 1.1 version
Kim
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Ah, yes that makes sense… thanks for adding it to the theme file! I had poked around after I made my post and found the omission but was concerned if I edited it in I’d do something wrong and break it.
Hugh
July 9th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Hey Andrei, keep up the good work with these smilies. I’ve just realised that on the Gmail themes you have missed :- x (without the space). It usually turns into a kiss!
Hugh
July 9th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Well I just realised that the kiss comes up with : * but not :- x as I usually use in the embedded Gmail chat. I’ve never used the Gtalk client.
Andrei Neculau
July 10th, 2008 at 12:29 am
@Hugh: Thanks. I will look into it, and come back with a quick updated version if I find any hickups.
Claire
July 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Hi Andrei, I try to drag and drop the tag but it doesn’t appear into the preferences window. Same with the add button.
I use windows XP, pidgin 2.4.3
Could you help me please?
Andrei Neculau
July 11th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
@Claire: It should work… I will test it soon on the same configuration you described here, but it sure sounds weird..
Pidgin Plugin Favoriten « Tux Weblog
July 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
[...] Plugin, aber auch sehr praktisch für den Multimessengerbetrieb unter Pidgin, ist das Icon-Theme Original Smiley. Das einzige, was mich dann noch gestört hat ist, dass, wenn man unter Jabber schreibt, diese [...]
macstyle
July 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Thanks a lot
shuguang
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Could my friends who use windows live messenger see these icons?
Andrei Neculau
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm
@shuguang: The short and clean answer is YES! This pack is specifically built with the sole purpose of giving you a “what I see is what you see” experience.
JesusH » Old AIM emoticons in Pidgin - Eliot Spitzer for Vice Squad Chief in 2008
July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 am
[...] connection issues. I’ve never liked the Pidgin default emoticons so I found and installed Andre Ineculau’s Original Smileys, which allow Pidgin to use the original emoticon set for each client–in other words, I see [...]
troeger.eu » Blog Archive » Good Bye Miranda, welcome Pidgin
August 5th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
[...] Protocol-specific icon set [...]
Murat Feyzifar
August 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
There is a problem in Ubuntu 8.0.4.1 & Pidgin 2.4.1, whenever I choose the Tien.pl smiley pack, pidgin first snoozes and then stop responding with inevitably quitting forceably. Others work perfect!
Andrei Neculau
August 13th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
@Murat Feyzifar: mmm.. thanks for sharing this info.
Unfortunately, I cannot replicate your environment, but.. you can try deleting/renaming the images in pidgin-original/tlen one by one, or in bulks at first, and you can determine which of the smileys are problematic. When you determine that, I can investigate upon the reasons. On Windows, there’s no problem.
Sorry about not being able to analyze the situation..